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豆包妈妈 LV19

发表于 27-3-2015 10:11:17 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层

谦纭 发表于 27-3-2015 09:36
奖学金跟PR买HDB有等同性吗?政府可以选择不把房子卖给PR,但不能要求别人在自己的国家净身出户。PR买HDB ...

政府当然可以选择不把HDB卖给PR,
同样的,没人逼PR买HDB不是吗?
你可以选择不买啊。
作为一个在新20年都不入籍的人,
可以理解你的心里有自己的小算盘。
权利跟义务向来对等,
你不能一边不放弃自己国家国籍,
还指望另一个国家拿你当亲娃对待吧?

xunclapton LV7

发表于 27-3-2015 10:14:40 | 显示全部楼层

小狮租房
谦纭 发表于 27-3-2015 09:36
奖学金跟PR买HDB有等同性吗?政府可以选择不把房子卖给PR,但不能要求别人在自己的国家净身出户。PR买HDB ...

我连PR也没有,这个不会有立场问题了吧。
有身份限制的商品都不会是市价,如果非PR的外国人能买HDB,如果没有收入限制,那才是市价
政府把能卖高价的黄金地块用来建HDB,只卖给公民,当然是对公民的巨大福利
限制只有PR才能买二手,少了那么多竞争者,价钱比市价肯定要低很多,虽然有3年限制,当然也是对PR的福利
政府的福利只用来保障相对的低收入者,要求PR不得拥有其他房产,不是理所当然吗

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我也没PR, 但ZF给国民福利有什么不对吗?  发表于 27-3-2015 11:40

童緯強 LV17

发表于 27-3-2015 10:17:22 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层

對獨立和共產宣言都沒興趣,喜歡國民建國大綱。

赌烂 LV4

发表于 27-3-2015 10:18:35 | 显示全部楼层

谦纭 发表于 27-3-2015 09:36
奖学金跟PR买HDB有等同性吗?政府可以选择不把房子卖给PR,但不能要求别人在自己的国家净身出户。PR买HDB ...

第一, 没人强逼你买HDB. 你不买, 就什么事也没有。 HDB本来就是一种特殊房产, 有诸多限制。 就算是新加坡公民买了HDB后也要把国外的房子卖掉, 凭什么优待你一个外国人。
第二, 既然你认为转卖HDB和公寓一样,都没有政府津贴, 你买公寓就好了。 现在市场上有大把大把的公寓让你选。
第三, 你对新加坡那么多怨气, 不如早点离去。 趁早去寻找你的梦想家园。  别把新加坡搞的怨气冲天。  你大爷高级人种, 新加坡伺候不了。

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good ^_^  发表于 27-3-2015 10:32

谦纭 LV16

发表于 27-3-2015 10:31:16 | 显示全部楼层

赌烂 发表于 27-3-2015 10:18
第一, 没人强逼你买HDB. 你不买, 就什么事也没有。 HDB本来就是一种特殊房产, 有诸多限制。 就算是新 ...

只回你最后一句话,哪句看出我对新加坡满腹怨言?我就对买HDB越来越多无理要求发表看法。别换了张公民纸就以为自己是主人是大爷。

goldenstar LV5

发表于 27-3-2015 10:37:19 | 显示全部楼层

唔, 在这里说别人没有换公民,是肯定不适合的。

郑丽颜 LV7

发表于 27-3-2015 10:43:14 | 显示全部楼层

独立宣言原文如下, 看看equal 是什么意思, 是高矮胖瘦丑美贫富么? 没文化真可怕--独立宣言的背景是针对什么, 读书吧!

Declaration of IndependenceThe Unanimous Declaration of the Thirteen United States of America
When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. --Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his assent to laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his governors to pass laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of representation in the legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved representative houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the legislative powers, incapable of annihilation, have returned to the people at large for their exercise; the state remaining in the meantime exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavored to prevent the population of these states; for that purpose obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migration hither, and raising the conditions of new appropriations of lands.
He has obstructed the administration of justice, by refusing his assent to laws for establishing judiciary powers.
He has made judges dependent on his will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, standing armies without the consent of our legislature.
He has affected to render the military independent of and superior to civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation:
For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment for any murders which they should commit on the inhabitants of these states:
For cutting off our trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing taxes on us without our consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of trial by jury:
For transporting us beyond seas to be tried for pretended offenses:
For abolishing the free system of English laws in a neighboring province, establishing therein an arbitrary government, and enlarging its boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule in these colonies:
For taking away our charters, abolishing our most valuable laws, and altering fundamentally the forms of our governments:
For suspending our own legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated government here, by declaring us out of his protection and waging war against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burned our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow citizens taken captive on the high seas to bear arms against their country, to become the executioners of their friends and brethren, or to fall themselves by their hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian savages, whose known rule of warfare, is undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
In every stage of these oppressions we have petitioned for redress in the most humble terms: our repeated petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
Nor have we been wanting in attention to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, enemies in war, in peace friends.
We, therefore, the representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the name, and by the authority of the good people of these colonies, solemnly publish and declare, that these united colonies are, and of right ought to be free and independent states; that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the state of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as free and independent states, they have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent states may of right do. And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

郑丽颜 LV7

发表于 27-3-2015 10:47:12 | 显示全部楼层

我们认为以下真理是不言而喻的:人人生而平等,造物主赋予他们某些不可转让的权利,其中包括生命权、自由权和追求幸福的权利。为了保障这些权利,人们建立起来被管辖者同意的政府。任何形式的政府,一旦破坏这些目标,人民就有权利去改变它或废除它,并建立一个新的政府。新政府所根据的原则及其组织权力的方式,务必使人民认为,唯有这样才最有可能保障他们的安全与幸福。

马三哥 LV15

发表于 27-3-2015 10:51:41 | 显示全部楼层

说起hdb和公寓,也只能怪自己当年贪图hdb便宜,结果这个便宜没那么容易占,结果hdb没买成,还耽误了好多事情。

WAYNEWEI LV18

发表于 27-3-2015 10:53:15 | 显示全部楼层

马三哥 发表于 26-3-2015 18:27
评价一个人,特别是大人物,成就要和私德分开,不混为一谈,这是基本的知识 ...

私德? 如何对待黑奴是大是大非,是公德。老李说得好,美国建国"圣贤“要的平等,只是作为原殖民地向宗主国提出的要求。所谓的平等是和他们都是同种同源的白人来说的。

独立战争之后,美国建国"圣贤“拿到他们要的  ”平等,从此就安心地过起自己的好日子了。至于其他的黑人,印地安人等等,那不在他们的考虑范围。所以"圣贤“们过得很舒服很安心,因为宣称”人人平等“的他们,但是并不觉得黑人印地安人是和他们一样的”人“。既然不是”人“,那么”人人平等“只适用他们自己人了,所以圣贤们很是心安理得的。中国清末,欧洲绅士在自己国家很绅士风度,在中国就不一样了,因为”中国人与狗不得进入“,把中国人当做狗的话,就不需要讲求绅士风度了。还有日本人,日本人在自己国家很有礼貌,在其他国家就犯下各种罪行,也是因为日本人只觉得他们才是人,其他的不算。


美国是在1783年独立的。直到80年后,美国的南北战争,才开始解放黑奴。美国建国"圣贤“在世时,享受着巨大的人望和”高尚“生活,但没认真考虑过给黑奴平等。


就算是在南北战争后解放黑奴,原因也不是因为”人人平等“的口号。而是经济发展到了一定程度,生产力要求所推动。北方是工业经济主导,需要大量的廉价工人和资源,而南方的庄园主们正好拥有黑奴和各种资源。这种矛盾是不可调和的,最后只能以战争来解决。北方取得胜利了,黑奴解放了,变成了工人。就算如此,黑人的地位也是一个漫长的斗争过程。特别强调的是,黑人如今享有的权利,根本不是什么先贤们给的,也不是先贤们的子孙后代给的。黑奴从奴隶变成工人,是资本家企业主为了自己利益的需要,工人慢慢拥有更多的权利,更是黑人自身族群实力的逐步强大。



所以啊,什么人人平等也好啊,绅士风度也好啊,尊重也好,权利也好。本身的实力条件才是基础,社会的发展则是外在的条件。美国”先贤“说的宣言,我是不信的,你愿意相信,是你的”权利和自由“。
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