michael8330

以下是引用 铜牌推广者 在2006-9-14 1:32:00的发言：
But Micheal, I think this is usually not advisable, right?
Because

1) If you are doing this, would 4 parties (buyer, seller, buyer's agent, seller's agent) have any agreement in black and white state clearly this condition of sales?
2) Is this black and white agreement need to be presented to HDB in 1st appointment as an attachment?

how about move in early and move out late?
that is way to do this type of arrangement , go and ask yr senior of yr company , i think is not right to open up the trade secret here.

all the thing i do , is above board and legal in all way , i don't do illegal thing , i am alway ready to be ask.

michael8330

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>铜牌推广者</i>在2006-9-14 1:44:00的发言：</b><br/><p>我知道您是谁啦，按理说，1）那人以欺骗威胁高压的手法让您们先签OTP, 这就不是算是服务了。2）那人连1st appointment 都没有来，根本没有服务到完，为什么要给1%？ 但是打官司会搞得你身心俱疲。我的建议是：先找mary 姐，看能不能摆平。也请大家出点好的建议。</p>[em03][em03]</div><p>欺骗威胁高压的手法= this can cause crime offence, so don't any how claim, it may be sue under deframe. </p><p>mary 姐= are u refer to the boss of the company ? madam Lu? </p><p>maximum 5k u want to 打官司? </p><p>u know how much is the legal fee? </p><p>tell the whole story , i help u to think .&nbsp; [em05]</p>

fredfred123

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>铜牌推广者</i>在2006-9-14 1:32:00的发言：</b><br/><p>But Micheal, I think&nbsp;this is usually not advisable, right? </p><p>Because </p><p>1) If you are doing this, would 4 parties (buyer, seller, buyer's agent, seller's agent) have any agreement in&nbsp;black and white&nbsp;state clearly this condition of sales?</p><p>2) Is this black and white agreement need to be presented to HDB in 1st appointment as an attachment? </p></div><p>1. they asked me to sign an additional agreement between Seller's agent and me, not sure if include seller. ( I haven't decided )</p><p>2. they said this is a secret agreement, cannot let HDB know it.</p>

michael8330

QUOTE: 以下是引用 fredfred123  在2006-9-14 10:13:00的发言

1. they asked me to sign an additional agreement between Seller's agent and me, not sure if include seller. ( I haven't decided )
2. they said this is a secret agreement, cannot let HDB know it.


1. best include seller
2. hdb will not want to look into this agreement, (commission agreement)

人人喊打

<p>多谢铜牌和<strong><em>michael8330！赞一下两位！</em></strong></p>[em17]

qiubiqq1

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>fredfred123</i>在2006-9-12 11:36:00的发言：</b><br/><p><strong><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="1">michael8330:</font></strong></p><p><strong><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="1">卖家说, 没有钱付AGENT FEE (2%), 所以要从交易中,付COMMISIONＦＥＥ，</font></strong></p><p><strong><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="1">例如，Ｖaluation price=250K, transaction fee=245K, </font></strong></p><p><strong><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="1">5K作为COMMISIONＦＥＥ付给ＳＥＬＬＥＲ　agent.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="1">这样情况多吗？合理吗？有风险吗？谢谢．　</font></strong></p></div><p></p><p>遇到这种房最好避开啦，否则到时候任何一方反悔就非常麻烦。</p><p>HDB也不会受理，因为标准HDB的合约(OTP)上强调不接受除此合约之外的任何附加合约。</p>

qiubiqq1

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>人人喊打</i>在2006-9-13 23:53:00的发言：</b><br/>请问楼主，我的中介在骗我签了OTP后，就露出恶劣本质了，说不再继续了，跑了，再也没有做任何事情。最后我们找了个律师才发现这是离婚加破产的房子，害的我们进退两难，万不得已只好认购。得知我们向HDB excise OTP后，这个中介居然还好意思向我们要1％佣金，我们拒绝后，还发了一封律师信给我们，说我们欠他佣金（我们没有和他签那个commission agreement），要诉我们上法庭。和他的公司沟通，效果也不明显，准备向消协、IRAS或报纸投诉，不知道哪种方式更有效。请问楼主和路过的朋友，则么投诉这样的不良房屋中介，别让这样的人为房屋中介这个职业蒙羞。顺便提一下，这个中介是中国人，请各位同胞留意。</div><p></p>当然不给他钱，因为他没参加first appointment。房屋中介要收取1%的佣金，两大要素就是OTP上他的签名和他必须参加first appointment,如果他有事不能出席，必须委托其他人代为出席。

michael8330

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>qiubiqq1</i>在2006-9-14 11:57:00的发言：</b><br/><p></p>当然不给他钱，因为他没参加first appointment。房屋中介要收取1%的佣金，两大要素就是OTP上他的签名和他必须参加first appointment,如果他有事不能出席，必须委托其他人代为出席。</div><p></p>your thinking is very simple.

人人喊打

<p><strong><font face="Verdana" color="#61b713">楼主,则么联系你!发短信给我!</font></strong></p>

人人喊打

他自己说不follow up我们这个case,然后就跑了,我们什么联系方式都没有,也没有签commission agreement,凭什么拿佣金啊!first appointment 他的Group Leader有去,交了一个表格给HDB officer,我们给officer写了书面证明,说这人不是我的agent.