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hwwca LV6

发表于 31-1-2010 23:08:58 | 显示全部楼层

楼上某个人的回帖真是极端,脏帽子一顶接一顶的,这样喜欢拔高了骂人,还真的适合大陆这块热土了!

懒得再 ...
深水冒泡 发表于 31-1-2010 17:15



    深水,你在贴子中对我用到了“被洗脑”,“幻想”等等词,这不是一种尊重人的表现,其实我可能比你在外时间长的多,应该是受资本主义影响更大。
    我是很痛恨网上胡乱骂人的人,我的贴子所有都没有这个意思,请你不要误解为好。不过你也记得要尊重别人。其实上面我退出讨论,实在也是因为你用词有些欠妥,我又何必自讨没趣呢?

深水冒泡 LV8

发表于 31-1-2010 23:22:23 | 显示全部楼层

深水,你在贴子中对我用到了“被洗脑”,“幻想”等等词,这不是一种尊重人的表现,其实我可能比你 ...
hwwca 发表于 31-1-2010 23:08


哈哈,我上面提到的那个人还不是你。我还是在蛮认真回你的贴子的。不过,当你暗示说克林顿、陈世美是很普遍的时候,我才指出这很可能是被媒体洗脑的结果。

至于理想主义,我前面也说了,未曾在国内工作过的人,很可能还是儿时美好记忆占据了印象的大部分。而你自己也承认了自己是理想主义。好了,不说了,误会澄清就好。

engjoylife LV9

发表于 31-1-2010 23:31:48 | 显示全部楼层

深水,你在贴子中对我用到了“被洗脑”,“幻想”等等词,这不是一种尊重人的表现,其实我可能比你 ...
hwwca 发表于 31-1-2010 23:08


俺路过,不参加辩论。。。不过,很明显还是您素质修养高些

hwwca LV6

发表于 31-1-2010 23:38:14 | 显示全部楼层

回复 181# 深水冒泡

    我是替你着想,不要生气。
    我不怕被骂的,有些贴子出来就是会被骂的,但是我要表达一种看法,即使能对一个人起作用也行。
    论坛是个公共场所,不光是中国人来这,本地人也来。原先我们大家都是中国人,维护中国人的形象是人人有责的。也让别人看到,素质在提高。
    谢谢你,大家都心平气和,多好啊!

深水冒泡 LV8

发表于 1-2-2010 00:09:27 | 显示全部楼层

回复  深水冒泡

    我是替你着想,不要生气。
    我不怕被骂的,有些贴子出来就是会被骂的,但是我要表 ...
hwwca 发表于 31-1-2010 23:38


谢谢你的替我着想。问题是我并没生气,之前回你贴时的状态也是自认比较平静的,所以,我才写了这些相当坦诚的长段对话;之后也认为我们之间是有了误解。

很同意你下面的这些话。素质提高,各人从自我做起。

深水冒泡 LV8

发表于 1-2-2010 00:17:15 | 显示全部楼层

哈哈哈哈~
bluesky88,
你看你干的好事儿!

本来吃饱了喝足了,
端着茶杯晃上网
聊聊天儿找找乐

结果 ...
xuemei166 发表于 31-1-2010 23:36


一谈起更换护照问题、是否海归等敏感问题,各人看法都不同,有争议也是正常的。不正常的只是某人文革遗风的上岗上线,乱扣叛国大帽。

大家尽量和平地各抒己见就好。吵翻天,就这些争议来说,那倒还不至于。

hwwca LV6

发表于 1-2-2010 07:30:58 | 显示全部楼层

本帖最后由 hwwca 于 1-2-2010 07:33 编辑

以下这个美国财政部昨天发布的报告会使你触目惊心。你会感觉到美国整个金融商业系统有多么腐败不堪,且已到了不顾国家安危这一步,而且这是大面积的现象。
闹了这么大的经济危机,我们每个人都损失很大。米国发绿卡,不能要啊。哈哈?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Wa ... p;asset=&ccode=

By Daniel Wagner and Alan Zibel, AP Business Writers , On Sunday January 31, 2010, 7:29 am EST

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The government's response to the financial meltdown has made it more likely the United States will face a deeper crisis in the future, an independent watchdog at the Treasury Department warned.

The problems that led to the last crisis have not yet been addressed, and in some cases have grown worse, says Neil Barofsky, the special inspector general for the trouble asset relief program, or TARP. The quarterly report to Congress was released Sunday.

"Even if TARP saved our financial system from driving off a cliff back in 2008, absent meaningful reform, we are still driving on the same winding mountain road, but this time in a faster car," Barofsky wrote.

Since Congress passed $700 billion financial bailout, the remaining institutions considered "too big to fail" have grown larger and failed to restrain the lavish pay for their executives, Barofsky wrote. He said the banks still have an incentive to take on risk because they know the government will save them rather than bring down the financial system.

Barofsky also said his office is investigating 77 cases of possible criminal and civil fraud, including crimes of tax evasion, insider trading, mortgage lending and payment collection, false statements and public corruption.

One case concerns apparent self-dealing by one of the private fund managers Treasury picked to buy bad assets from banks at discounted prices. A portfolio manager at the firm apparently sold a bond out of a private fund, then repurchased it at a higher price for a government-backed fund. A rating agency had just downgraded the bond, so it likely was worth less, not more, when the government fund bought it. The company is not being named pending the outcome of Barofsky's investigation.

Barofsky renewed a call for Treasury to enact clearer walls so that such apparent conflicts are less likely.

Treasury said it welcomed Barofsky's oversight but resisted the call to erect new barriers against conflicts of interest. The new rules "would be detrimental to the program," Treasury spokeswoman Meg Reilly said in a statement. The existing compliance rules "are a rigorous and effective method of protecting taxpayers," she said.

Much of Barofsky's report focused on the government's growing role in the housing market, which he said has increased the risk of another housing bubble.

Over the past year, the federal government has spent hundreds of billions propping up the housing market. About 90 percent of home loans are backed by government controlled entities, mainly Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Federal Housing Administration.

The Federal Reserve is spending $1.25 trillion to hold down mortgage rates, and millions of homeowners have refinanced at lower rates.

"The government has stepped in where the private players have gone away," Barofsky said in an interview. "If we take government resources and replace that market without addressing the serious (underlying) concerns, there really is a risk of" artificially pushing up home prices in the coming years.

The report warned that these supports mean the government "has done more than simply support the mortgage market, in many ways it has become the mortgage market, with the taxpayer shouldering the risk that had once been borne by the private investor."

Barofsky's report echoed concerns raised by housing experts in recent months, as home sales and prices rebounded. They warn that the primary reason for the turnaround last year has been billions of dollars in federal spending to lower mortgage rates and prop up demand.

Once that spigot of cash is turned off, they caution, the market will be vulnerable to a dramatic turn for the worse. Daniel Alpert, managing partner of investment bank Westwood Capital, wrote in a report that national home prices are bound to fall 8 to 10 percent below the lows of last spring.

"The lion's share of the remaining decline will occur in markets that saw sizable bubbles but have not yet retrenched," he wrote.

Officials from the Obama administration counter that massive federal intervention has helped the housing market stabilize and prevented more dire consequences.

Barofsky's report also disclosed that, while the Obama administration has pledged to spend $75 billion to prevent foreclosures, only a tiny fraction -- just over $15 million -- has been spent so far. Under the Making Home Affordable program, only about 66,500 borrowers, or 7 percent of those who signed up, had completed the process as of December.

He said the key to preventing future crises is to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, create and improve loan underwriting and supervision of banks. He stopped short of endorsing specific proposals for overhauling financial regulation, but said many of the proposals would go far to improving the system.

bluesky88 LV13

发表于 1-2-2010 07:40:14 | 显示全部楼层

哈哈哈哈~
bluesky88,
你看你干的好事儿!

本来吃饱了喝足了,
端着茶杯晃上网
聊聊天儿找找乐

结果 ...
xuemei166 发表于 31-1-2010 23:36

呵呵,本来开帖是让大家谈谈看法,发发牢骚,没成想扔了个炸弹,看来有很多话题还是十分敏感的。
人多手杂嘴也杂,不过大家都是成年人,很多都是很有身份的人,吵架可以,骂人和人身攻击就免了吧。

bluesky88 LV13

发表于 1-2-2010 07:43:18 | 显示全部楼层

以下这个美国财政部昨天发布的报告会使你触目惊心。你会感觉到美国整个金融商业系统有多么腐败不堪,且已到 ...
hwwca 发表于 1-2-2010 07:30

关注一下这份报告对今天STI的影响。

hwwca LV6

发表于 1-2-2010 07:49:57 | 显示全部楼层

移民的问题,归根结蒂是个对原住国和现住国的评价问题,当然这是结合了个人实际。
短期看好的拿绿卡为止;
长期看好的一直追到公民;
论理由可是人人有理。
建议不要再争执,甚至出现攻击政府,这是哪个社会都不容许的。因而还要提醒大家注意法律问题。

最后,讲个故事,作为本周开始:

有一友教子有方,循循教女多重学业万勿早恋,
一日,其女好奇问曰“比二该斥之子给我封情信,回与不回?”
友不假思索,“干吗不回?这么好机会!” 其女窍笑。

祝各位新的一周,和气生财,不过万勿抄错底耶
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