echozhang

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>ck1010</i>在2007-2-4 2:51:00的发言：</b><br/><div style="BORDER-RIGHT: #cccccc 0.75pt solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4pt; BORDER-TOP: #cccccc 0.75pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; BACKGROUND: #f3f3f3; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4pt; BORDER-LEFT: #cccccc 0.75pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 4pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #cccccc 0.75pt solid;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN: 3.75pt 15pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-alt: solid #CCCCCC .75pt; mso-padding-alt: 4.0pt 4.0pt 4.0pt 4.0pt;"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">以下是引用<i>echozhang</i>在2007-2-2 17:29:00的发言：</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Arial Unicode MS&quot;;"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 15pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 15pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-alt: solid #CCCCCC .75pt; mso-padding-alt: 4.0pt 4.0pt 4.0pt 4.0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">与</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">ck1010</span><font face="Arial Unicode MS"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">商酌：</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;"><p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 15pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 15pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-alt: solid #CCCCCC .75pt; mso-padding-alt: 4.0pt 4.0pt 4.0pt 4.0pt;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">我认为进出新加坡没有盖章是很正常的。</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;"><p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 15pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 15pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-alt: solid #CCCCCC .75pt; mso-padding-alt: 4.0pt 4.0pt 4.0pt 4.0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">前面有</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">PR</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">身份的网友提出，</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">3</span><font face="Arial Unicode MS"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">次进出新加坡都没有盖章，我跟老公的护照上也都是没有。如此大规模的漏盖是难以想象的。</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;"><p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 15pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 15pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-alt: solid #CCCCCC .75pt; mso-padding-alt: 4.0pt 4.0pt 4.0pt 4.0pt;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">所以我推想：</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;"><p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 15pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 15pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-alt: solid #CCCCCC .75pt; mso-padding-alt: 4.0pt 4.0pt 4.0pt 4.0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">出入境如果有</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">produce IC &amp; passport, scan IC &amp; passport, no stamp on passport.<p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 15pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 15pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-alt: solid #CCCCCC .75pt; mso-padding-alt: 4.0pt 4.0pt 4.0pt 4.0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">如果</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">produce passport only, scan &amp; stamp passport.<p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p></div><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt;"><strong><u><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">SCAN IC</span></u></strong><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">其实对于</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">PR</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">来说，进出新加坡是不用出示</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">IC</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">的，只要拿着护照就行了，因为一般人的回境证</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">(REP)</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">都在护照上。那些领有新加坡</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">CI</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">的人，其</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">REP</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">就在</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">CI</span><font face="Arial Unicode MS"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">上，出行的时候得同时带上护照，反而显得麻烦。</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;"><p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">以前中国的护照还没有机读功能，进新加坡的时候，看到</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">ICA</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">的人把护照翻到</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">REP</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">那一页，然后在键盘上敲。估计就是在输入</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">NRIC</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">号码，以记录进、出新加坡的日期。因此，既然你把</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">NRIC</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">一同交给</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">ICA</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">官员，对方当然就直接</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">SCAN</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">上面的条形码。</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">(</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">谁都想偷懒，也不存在敲错的问题</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;"> [em01])<p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">从这个角度来看，</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">PR</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">进出新加坡</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">SCAN IC</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">就行了。</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">(</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">当然，谁都会把护照也一同交给</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">ICA</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">官员。</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">)<p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">(</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">大家也都知道申请</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">PR</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">的时候要填护照号码，这就形成护照跟</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">NRIC</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">一一对映的关系，无论是</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">SCAN</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">护照还是</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">IC</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">都可以正确记录出入境时间。</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">)<p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt;"><strong><u><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">STAMP (PR)</span></u></strong><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">其实盖章的问题以前也让我很郁闷：为什么那些拿</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">EP</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">的人出入都不用盖，反而是我们这些被视为国人的</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">PR</span><font face="Arial Unicode MS"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">进出都要呢？</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;"><p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">后来才明白玄机应该就在</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">PR</span><font face="Arial Unicode MS"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">申请公民的要求上：</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;"><p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">过去的<strong>申请表上</strong>是要<strong>具体列出</strong>成为</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">PR</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">之后至申请日之前五年内<strong>所有</strong>离开新加坡的时间</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">(</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">出跟入</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">)</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">和事由。这些出出入入的章对申请者就相当重要了，特别是在午夜进出新加坡的时候，还真不知道</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">ICA</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">电脑里记录的是哪一天。填错了时间、或者少填了某次离境，都会被要求当面解释。</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">(</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">因为要一一核实，其实申请人跟办事人员都很累</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;"> [em06])<p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">如果是出入新加坡频繁，加上很多国家、地区的签证都是整张贴在空白的签证页上，护照上的签证页会很快用完</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">([em30])</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">；所以对于经常外出</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">(</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">如经常在周末当日往返马来西亚新山</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">)</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">的</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">PR</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">来说，那本新加坡</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">CI</span><font face="Arial Unicode MS"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">还是挺有用的。</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;"><p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">近来，这方面的规定改为只要离开新加坡的时间累计不超过六个月，就不用列出来。于是乎，对于多数</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">PR</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">来说，这些出入章都是多余的；而对于</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">ICA</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">关卡人员来说，反正相关信息已经存入到中央数据库，也不会给旅客带来不便，这个章就越显可盖、可不盖。</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">[em17]<p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt;"><strong><u><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">STAMP (</span></u></strong><strong><u><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">其他</font></span></u></strong><strong><u><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">)</span></u></strong><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">对于其他长期居留证持有者</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">(EP</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">、</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">SP</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">、</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">STP</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">、</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">WP</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">、</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">LTSVP</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">等</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">)</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">来说，进出新加坡的时候，一同出示护照、小绿卡</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">(</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">居留证</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">)</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">就行了</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;"> (</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">连入境卡都不用填</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">)</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">。因为护照上都有多次往返新加坡的签证，而绿卡上都有有效期，进出的章也就显得不重要。</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">(</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">当然，</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">ICA</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS">的数据库是有记录的。</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">)<p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">再看那些短期的，盖上日期和可逗留的期限，让持证人很清楚自己该在什么时候离境。至于离境章，一般都会盖上；因为有些人来新加坡是需要担保人付押金的。退还担保金就需要交离境章的复印件。</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;"><p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">&nbsp;&nbsp;<p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">象新加坡这样地方小、旅客流量大的国家、地区，计算机化的程度都相当高，各关卡、办事处一般都与中央数据库实时相连。盖章与否，很大程度上与法规跟其他一些事情的手续有关。</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;"><p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;"><p></p></span></p><p></p><p></p><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 3.75pt;"><font face="Arial Unicode MS"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">以上所有都是根据个人经历以及大家所提供的信息，对进出新加坡盖章一事所作的一些猜测。跟楼主的问题关系不大，抱歉。</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial;"><p></p></span></font></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman"><p></p></font></font></p><p></p><p></p></div><p></p><p>原来还有这许多知识。</p><p>多谢啦！</p><p></p>

good99

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>ck1010</i>在2007-2-4 18:52:00的发言：</b><br/></div><p>CK，我不想回你的那个东西。我已经说过，那个东西，大家都不清楚，我也是。我做作功课。你也作功课。很好，符合我一贯提倡的。可以说你这个功课比我做的好。但，这个东西其实跟你我无关，那是主要给新加坡人的，前面我已说过。我不想继续。</p><p>对于你维护的那两个人，不做功课，大放厥词，你该教导一下。不要明明知道不需要NRIC，还非要<strong>狗尾续貂</strong>地给他们编一个什么用NRIC也是有道理的（其实按你的说法，就是让官员偷懒，省了输入几个数字而已）。你应该明确地跟他们说，不要用NRIC。<strong>纠正错误</strong>的，而<strong>不是掩盖错误</strong>的。IC应该收在包里（你也提到）。如果漏失，给行程带来的<strong>损失</strong>是比<strong>少输入那几个数字</strong>要大几十倍！</p><p>最最要命的，一个是肯定把NRIC搞错了，另一个估计也是。应该纠正这个。我总把别人想得比较好，我绝对想不到，有些人随便说话不准确也就罢了，结果连什么是NRIC也不知道。我以为只有新加坡才会有这种人（misfire），没想到中国人也有。</p>

echozhang

<p>ClearWater,不用再讲了。</p><p>观者心里有数。</p><p>到此为止吧。</p>

good99

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>Asylia</i>在2007-2-5 9:14:00的发言：</b><br/><p><font size="2">NRIC: National Registration Identity Card</font></p><p><font size="2">卖东西的看到你，不是说你有病，就是以为你刚抢完银行，要不然走私贩毒，哪还敢跟你做生意啊？</font></p></div><p>佩服！没几个人知道什么是anti-money laundering，您是一位。[em10][em10]</p>

good99

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>echozhang</i>在2007-2-5 9:42:00的发言：</b><br/><p></p><p>原来还有这许多知识。</p><p></p></div><p>只是要有一个基础。基础歪了，知识都是错的。我没说你错，只是请你确定一下你有NRIC；如果有，出入新加坡肯定不用使用NRIC。旅行的时候事情很多，你最好把不需要的东西收在包里。这就是知识。</p>

echozhang

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>clearwater</i>在2007-2-2 18:56:00的发言：</b><br/><p>想跟ECHOZHANG探讨:</p><p>看到你也是有小小孩子的吧,不知道你孩子多大了?</p><p>前面好象看到你说你申请PR是为了孩子上好学校(记不太清楚是不是你说的了),我们也是.来新满两个月的时候申请了PR,20多天后拿到了批准信. 不过信拿到手又三个多月过去了,我们一直犹豫不决,到底要不要去拿这个PR.感觉好象除了孩子上本地小学外,这个PR也没什么用处.本地的名校就算是PR也不一定能进去吧,上一般的学校,倒还不如干脆一直上国际学校省心呢.</p><p></p><br/></div><p></p><p>&nbsp;拿PR没什么损失的话，先拿了也无妨。毕竟PR相对于外国人来讲，还是有很多好处的。</p><p>能不能上名校，貌似跟成绩和小孩居住地是否在名校附近有关，跟小孩是公民还是PR无关。</p><p></p>

echozhang

<p>另外想请教楼主和clearwater：</p><p>对孩子的成长和教育来说，新加坡会优于美国吗？</p><p>俺家宝宝长大后，也会面临同样的取舍。希望多听取些大家的意见。</p><p>谢谢先啦。</p><p></p>

clearwater

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>echozhang</i>在2007-2-5 11:08:00的发言：</b><br/><p></p><p>&nbsp;拿PR没什么损失的话，先拿了也无妨。毕竟PR相对于外国人来讲，还是有很多好处的。</p><p>能不能上名校，貌似跟成绩和小孩居住地是否在名校附近有关，跟小孩是公民还是PR无关。</p><p></p></div><p>我们问过RAFFLES和南洋小学, 不是PR的话, 基本上排不进去. 是PR, 也得家长做义工再抽签, 除非住在学校附近. 上小学跟成绩没什么关系吧, 幼儿园有成绩单吗?</p><p>我们是拿了PR就损失一些给外国员工的补贴, 不拿PR也同样享受CPF那些待遇, 拿PR唯一的用处就是小孩子上名校, 所以才犹豫不绝.</p>

clearwater

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>echozhang</i>在2007-2-5 11:11:00的发言：</b><br/><p>另外想请教楼主和clearwater：</p><p>对孩子的成长和教育来说，新加坡会优于美国吗？</p><p>俺家宝宝长大后，也会面临同样的取舍。希望多听取些大家的意见。</p><p>谢谢先啦。</p><p></p></div><p></p>我还没仔细考虑过这个问题, 我只是想, 大学前女儿肯定是我们去哪儿她去哪儿的, 不会把她一个人送到美国去读中小学. 但是大学一定还是去美国念的. 所以我比较倾向于孩子在这边读国际学校, 在语言和文化上应该和在美国本土读书差不多的吧. 我们周围的同事大都是这么做的, 我看他们的小孩都考取了很好的大学.

clearwater

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>ck1010</i>在2007-2-3 23:46:00的发言：</b><br/><p>&nbsp; </p><p>一般来说，批准信下来之后两个月内要完成PR的手续。不知道你们是否特地要求延期办理了？当然，以你们的条件，想什么时候再申请都行。 </p><p>另外，如果不是男孩，拿到PR除了要交CPF之外，没什么其他不便之处。 </p><p>&nbsp; </p><p>如果要进名校，就算是公民的孩子也不容易。如果真的一心要进，在名校1km范围内买房子、并去那间学校当义工。</p></div><p></p>不好意思, 刚看到你的回贴. 谢谢你提醒, 我们在两个月结束的时候给ICA发EMAIL说明了情况, 说这次就先不办了. 第二天ICA的人打电话给我们说, 再多给我们两个月时间考虑. 就这样, 也没有书面的东西表明延期的. 现在又快满俩月了, 我们基本上决定不办了.